Because I have had so many requests, and because so many hearts are broken over Michael's death, I will try to explain, the best I can, what I understand about the charges against Dr. Murray and try to address the requests for harsher charges. First, let me be clear, that this is only my opinion, based on the years I have worked with the criminal justice system in the US. Most fans feel, and perhaps rightfully so, that Conrad Murray should have been charged with a crime harsher than Manslaughter for the death of Michael Jackson. I myself, being an expert in true crime, wanted to see a charge of Second Degree Murder. But here is a fact we must all deal with: the harsher the charge, the more impossible it is to prove in a court of law. That's the reality. It's the system in the USA. The innocent must be proven guilty. If you bring a stronger charge, such as Second Degree Murder, then you must prove, beyond a doubt, that Dr. Murray acted with "wanton disregard for human life." Now, I myself, feel the doctor crossed the line and DID display a wanton disregard for human life when he left Michael alone for almost an hour while Michael was sedated on propofol, etc. But here's the ugly truth: if ONE juror decided that Murray's actions were not "wanton" -- were not "deliberate" -- the man (Dr. Murray) would walk free... The LADA knows this all too well. The LADA does not want another OJ situation. The only way to make Conrad Murray pay is to charge him lightly and prove that lighter charge beyond a reasonable doubt. It may not seem like justice to MJ fans... but let's face it, will anything help the wounded hearts left in Michael's wake? Will anything be good enough? Isn't what we really want, is to bring Michael back? Let's ask ourselves, seriously, what the best result can be of the Murray trial? Perhaps it is to put that doctor behind bars, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, to strip Murray of his license and his dignity... And BTW, to the many who request that MEZ (Mesereau) get involved, I have asked him about that. MEZ reminded me that he is a criminal defense attorney. He is not the prosecutor and his role, therefore, would be on the OTHER side of the table. He would never stand up for Murray, of course. But Mez also cannot speak for, or add to, the LADA's battle against Dr. Conrad Murray.
I hope this clears up some of the pain and confusion surrounding Michael's death and the upcoming trial against Dr. Murray.
Respectfully,
Aphrodite
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I understand Ms Jones, thank you for explaining. Mr Mesereau made similar statements. I know you understand when I say is dose not help the pain I feel. I think now I am more more hurt than angry :'(. I am not sure if that pain will leave completely, but I understand what you're saying. Thanks.
I don't see asking for a higher charge will get Michael any justice, not that four years is anything. But having his licenced stripped has to be the way so that he cannot put any more lives in danger. Nothing will bring Michael back but we can try to protect other innocents from facing the same fate. This man has changed my life forever and many other lives including Michael's dear children. I want justice not just for Michael but for his children and his family.
Thank you for such a gentle explaination. You are so right and everything you speak is truth. Nothing can bring back Michael but having Murray walk would be the worst thing that could happen. I would like to see Murray go to jail and let the inmates in prison take care of the justice we seek. I want Murray's license stripped from him forever. I am so angry and feel there are too many loop holes in our justice system for the wrong people..
First of all, I would like to say that I appreciated your book, so much so that I was often left with tears for what MICHAEL went through.
Nothing, I repeat, nothing, will ever take away the pain that millions of people feel around the world, be it even to different degrees, we are still hurting and missing Michael as if he were one of our own.
Thanks for the explanations, and on behalf of MJ fans, I would also like to say thanks to both yourself and Mr Mesereau for supporting Michael as you did and still do.
PS...
yes we want Michael back.
Hi Ms Jones, firstly I just wanted to say that I've been reading some of your other posts and I just wanted to say thankyou for being so nice about Michael...regarding the Murray case, I was upset to see it was only manslaughter he was being charged with. I agree with you that he did show complete disregard for Michael's life. I dont believe much of the tabloid gossip but I have heard various stories of Michaels final hours with this doctor and I have found this very upsetting...that Murray could act so carelessly towards him, Michael was very vulnerable, its heartbreaking. I have also heard different stories regarding Michaels drug taking...I am aware that they will probably rake all this up in court but nevertheless that doctor did act irresponsibly...he wasnt thinking of Michaels best interests thats for sure. I love Michael and I do hope some justice is done ...thanks again. I hope to read your book very soon.
Rachel
Hi Aphrodite thanks for the explanation still I believe that this dr. should face maximum prison time with a charge of 1st degree. I know you talked about the law but some facts. he was not properly licensed to administer the Propofol he also did not have the proper equipment to revive MJ incase of an emergency and then he leave the room for way more than and hour.how sick and twisted is our justice system that he admits to all this and he can still go free seriously?
I agree with you Aphrodite.I too want justice but nothing will bring Michael back.Besides if justice is to be prevailed then media and tabloid should pay too.After all they have the lion share.Murray's possibly just a pawn.
Thank you for this legal explanation Ms Jones. I've also heard Mr Mesereau's similar explanation, and I agree that finding Dr Murray guilty of a lessor crime is preferable to seeing him walk free after a failed prosecution for a stronger charge. Not fair, but maybe the best that can be done. I've heard so many contradictory statements made about MJ, ie. his drug use, the state of his health and even that a larger conspiracy is behind his death. I hope some of these issues can be cleared up in this trial. I wonder if you know Brian Oxman and how you view him professionally... if you can say. I do not get a good vibe when I hear him speak. With Mr Mesereau, I feel confident that he knows what he's doing. I'd like to feel that with Mr Oxman, but I just don't. Thank you.
Hi, Aphrodite!
I'd really like to give your book a read, but it's only available on Amazon for a crazy high amount of money ($70something).
Do you sell copies of the books via your personal website?
I fully agree with you and believe your words, Ms Jones:)
There will be something to comfort me...Let them give me my Michael back !!
Michael had to endure this same process in 2004 and 2005. He was ridiculed and mocked and made to show up in handcuffs. He was splashed all over the news and the trial was turned into a daily joke (what happened to Michael isn't funny, issues of child abuse on any level aren't funny). The jury acquitted him.
CM had the gall to say "It would appear I was in the wrong place at the wrong time," in a house of worship. As if he were some unsuspecting innocent, swept up into Michael's world w/no choice of his own. Uh, damn right you were in the wrong place at the wrong time! You SHOULD'VE been by Michael's side monitoring him closely (for your 150K)--instead you were complacent after six weeks of inappropriate medical practices and you were off calling whomever, doing whatever, leaving your patient totally vulnerable and leading to the subsequent, untimely, UNNECESSARY death of a much beloved man!
We want CM's absolute, stunning malpractice to be answered. He must go through the trial. When he is convicted, he will go to prison. What follows remains unseen. If you are a believer, pray for Michael's soul, pray that CM won't be able to act under desperate greed and cost another person their life. He is not allowed to act as if Michael's fame/wealth muddied his decision-making and corrupted his values. He is a grown man with years of medical training. He messed up--BIG TIME--may justice prevail.
Forever Michael!!!
Thank you APHRODITE JONES for your continued commitment to Michael's story.
Listen I thought of something. Murray may not have given the drug intentionally to kill mj. BUT HE DID INTENTIONALLY KEEP INFORMATION FROM 911 AND THE PARAMEDICS WHO WOULD AND COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER PREPARED TO HANDLE THE SITUATION DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST TAKE HIM TO THE HOSPITAL. There is proof on the 911 call when the operator asks "Did the doctor see anything or know why he isn't breathing?". NO ANSWER, just said "Please come"
That is intentionally letting a man die without help. HE DIDNT TELL ANYONE ABUT THE PROPOFOL ...NO ONE. THEY COULD HAVE TRIED OTHER THINGS TO GET HIM BACK.
MJ ALSO SAID HE WAS DEHYDRATED...DID HE GIVE HIM ANYTHING FOR THAT???NO JUST AN IV OF A LETHAL DRUG AFTER GIVING HIM A MIXTURE OF OTHER HEART TOPPING DRUGS...BENZODIAZIPINES.
Tell the DA tell everyone. It is MURDER. for sure!!! I did research and withholding pertinent info which could result in death, is INTENTIONAL MURDER!!!!
You have to express more your opinion to attract more readers, because just a video or plain text without any personal approach is not that valuable. But it is just form my point of view
Thank you for such good explanation Aphrodite. I wonder when a second degree murder is hard to prove wouldnt they even try it, or just give up on it straight away. I agree that nothing will bring Michael back and i feel that whatever charge they bring against Murray it wont be enough. But how can Murray plead Not Guilty, after everything he did , This man is unreaal. I have the feeling they will put all blame on Michael, sadly.
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Thank you for standing up for Michael.
Thank you for being YOU!
Thank you!!
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thank you Mrs Jones.I want to emphasize the comment by Sharon N
Erlich. This is because MJ was "flatlined", that is dead when the paramedics arrived.He used his
MD authority and demanded that the dead MJ be taken to the hospital.
Then he lies about the time MJ stopped breathing and thereby has caused much confusion.MJ was dead for hrs before an official death certificate was written.The paramedics know when someone is dead even if a corpse is given CPR for hrs.The paramedics should witness in court.
aphrodite, we took pictures of michaels feet, ears, inner ears neck and hands and side profiles lft,rght, and front. from when he was a young boy,in his teens in his thirties and forties and we took them to our criminal justice instructors. one whom was an fbi agent. first of all we were informed that the person at the podium who announanced the up and coming london concert. was not MJ and we were told that it did not take a lot of skill to figure that out. second we were told that the person appearing at the 2006 world music awards was positively was not michael and that the pperson in the this is it movie certainly was not him. not to mention all the info on the internet insisting that it was not him. what in the world is going on? these people are professionals and they know what they are talking about. and where is MJ"S body double why has;nt any one seen any interviews of him . his fans would cherish watching that. who really died MJ or his body double? media people have all kind of investigators at thier disposal. and it would be the story of the century yet no tv show has even questioned it. why? does the media know something that we dont? and latoya said that MJ looked hansome in his suit and black gloves in his casket yet on another tv show jermaine said he looked good in his suit and his silver gloves. most all entertainers are shown in thier casket to give fans closure yet he was'nt. it's got our professors and instructors curious. and there is no way jermaine should have been announcing his brothers death, thats what a family spokesperson is for. and lets face it thier version of mourning was nil& none. his brothers are constantly saying on tv ' now maybe they'll leave michael alone, as if to say we've fixed it so that he can live his life in some privacy now. if that is the case GOOD! he deserves some oeace and privacy. he's been entertaing and doing humanitarian work all his life. just the same we are curious why his death or not has never been addressed on any tv show. and we don't want to open a can of worms but let's face it michael is loved the world around . one thing you learn early in life is money talks and confidentiality agreements are usually sound and binding.look at mjs ear when he's with princess diana, freeze it, then look aT HIS EAR IN APPEARANCES AFTERWARD. ther is not enough time to go over all the evidence but something is fishy!!!!!! either mj died years earlier or he did not die at all one thing is for sure mj is too smart to let prophaphal take him out period but when you take into consideration how much he loved his kids.... no no no. think think think examine, pay attention!!!
aphrodite- why is it every time some one on jane velez mitchell's show starts to say something positive about michael, she is QUICK!!! to cut them off. she never fails why is she so lowlife and cruel. WHY? and why do the always have diane demon doing Michaels biography on tv some one who literally HATES him. she's never had a nice word to say about him. NEVER! and when mshe did the show on where's micheals money all she did is say he was wasteful with money. not a word about the mega millions he gave to humanitarian needs for people all around the world. i have learned when you are deliberately cruel and hateful, you look horribly ugly and old and wrinkled. to others when they look at you. when you are fair and have a kind heart. people see you as beautiful, they really do. my gramma has always had a beautiful plaque on her wall that said. dear Lord; help me to chose my words carefully, for tomorrow i mmay have to eat them... so true.... but more importantly all of our words are being heard by the same person who gives us a good job and a good living, and he said he would forgive us anything.. but he did not say that we dont have to be accountable for our behavior. iam willing to forgive this hardcore cruel behavior. because that is the way i was raised. i hope that those indivuals, who have taken it upon mthemselves to try and convict.and ruin peoples lives in the media.will take a long hard look in the mirror and realize the devestation they've caused, and walk in that persons shoes, and consider how it would feel if someone did this to thier child, and change thier ways. i know that the real blessings would come for them then. my gramma is passed and now i'am the senior citizen. but i learned a lot from her kindness and wisdom. love you truly MJ.
I'AM TAKING IT UPON MYSELF TO DECLARE JUNE 25TH AS DO SOMETHING KIND FOR A STRANGER DAY, ALL AROUND THE WORLD. THOUGH I KNOW VERY FEW PEOPLE WILL PAY ATTENTION. IF JUST ONE PERSON DOES THAN MICHAEL'S HARD WORK , HIS MESSAGE OF LOVE WILL NOT BE FOR NOTHING. MAY JOY AND PEACE AND FORGIVENESS BE WITH EVERYONE....LOVE
TO JVM, CC,DD,NG, GA..... TO ALL OF YOU PURE , HOLY, NEVER DID ANY THING WRONG IN YOUR LIFE, PERFECT, JOURNALIST AND MEDIA PERSONALITIES. PLEASE CONTINUE TO PERSECUTE, TRY AND CONVICT, BELITLE AND SHAME CELEBRITIES, PLEASE CONTINUE TO JUDGE, AND DESTROY LIVES FOR RATINGS, PROFIT AND GREED. I'M CERTAIN THAT GOD APPROVES OF THIS BEHAVIOR, DON'T YOU THINK? BUT OF COURSE IF FOR SOME REASON HE DOES'NT I'M SURE HE'LL TAP YOU ON THE SHOULDER AND LET YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER. BUT FOR SOME REASON I HAVE THE FEELING THAT HE'S GIVING US All A CHANCE TO CLEAN UP OUR ACT, AND BECOME FAIR, HONEST, RESPONSIBLE JOURNALIST AND MEDIA PEOPLE FIRST. AT WHAT EVER JOB WE DO. GOD BLESS
Already 25 comments there - the chances that you will read this are not very high. I´ll write it down anyway. Aphrodite, the only thing I´m interested in is to find out the real truth regarding Michael´s death. I know nothing will bring him back but still we must search for the truth. Whoever was responsible for Michael´s death MUST be held accountable! What I will say now will probably be not very popular - but has anyone ever considered that Dr. Murray may truely not be responsible for Michael´s death as he claims? What if he is guilty of leaving Michael unattended for some time - but not of administering the fatal dose of propofol? What if someone knew Dr. Murray had a habit of leaving Michael in his room and what if this person sneaked in there and hooked Michael up to that 100ml bottle of propofol that was found in the closet? What if Dr. Murray returned and found Michael dead or almost dead and completely panicked, knowing he would be the one who would be blamed and very well knowing that he should not have left him? This would be a fully intended murder. There are so many inconsistensies in this case. All the information we have is coming from the press and the police. Should we trust them? definitely not the press. And I´m not so sure about the police. The recent story run by TMZ first on Michael self - administering and of this being a strategy of Dr. Murrays defense was denied by the defense. It was something that came from TMZ. It was a story that stirred the emotions against Dr. Murray. Dr. Murray´s defense also said once: the police´s theory about the timeline is just that - a theory. But we´ve been running with this theory for months, a theory that raised many questions and one that we all took for a fact. In the autopsy report there is an Informant/Witness statement - who was this informant? Dr Murray? It says Michael called Dr Murray at approx. 1am, he went there, Michael slept for a few hours and at approx. 12 o´clock he found Michael not breathing, performed CPR and the 911 call was made. Is this the REAL timeline? Can we rely on what the police is feeding us if this was an intentional murder? Why did it take them so long to hear the 2 security guards that wanted to give another testimony after they were only questioned shortly the day Michael died? Was someone afraid they may have witnessed someone going into Michael´s room? Did they have orders to ignore them? Who are we dealing with if this was intentional murder - and how powerful are they? Why was the house not sealed for 2 days? The testimony of the one guard that was released a while ago - was it really his statement? There were reports one of them was still working for the Jacksons and fired after the statement was released - how could he have kept this important information to himself (if we assume he was fired because the family felt betrayed)?
Fans stated they saw the number of the security guards go up from 3 people to 12 the day Michael died, one being very nervous the last days with sweat on his face. What if one of these new guys was hired to go in there and hook Michael up to propofol? Please can everyone entertain this idea for a second! Are we being fooled here???
Murray is only a tip of iceberg; there are others responsible for Michael's death: namely SONY/AEG!!!!
aphrodite- my complete loyalty is with MJ . my biggest pet peve in life is loyalty. something that seems so rare these days. I would love Michael if he had both arms cut off was bald and had a thousand soars on his body. because he was true, sincere, and pure in heart. that coupled with his unbelieveable talent, well there's something angelic about him. I'm so sorry that no one who truly loved him was with him in his last hours. If i could of had my way I'd of convinced him to come away with me to a far away island and we'd live out our days there. and Id spend the rest of my life making him happy. love you MJ
aphrodite, write your heart out anything you write i'm going to buy. and if mj's attorney writes a book i'm going to buy that as well. neither one of you can do wrong in my book.
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