Let me make an observation about Dr. Murray going to visit Michael’s final resting place at Forrest Lawn in Los Angeles, because for me, I was beyond horrified to learn about this creepy gesture. It's one thing for those close to Michael to go see him, to go and try to speak to the dead. We all do this with our loved ones who pass, in some form or another. But Michael was not a "loved one" in the world of Conrad Murray, now, was he? In his own twisted mind, Conrad Murray wants us to believe that he loved Michael?? What???? The man is in complete denial. Not now, and not ever, will Conrad Murray be forgiven for what caused Michael's death. Perhaps he has forgotten about his role as a paid professional in Michael Jackson's life, but the rest of the world hasn't. The idea that, just before the Doc will be charged with criminal actions, just before turning himself in to law enforcement, Murray would make a gesture to go see Michael beyond the grave... is just sickening. It's unfathomable to me that this doctor has actually convinced himself that he "cared" about Michael. The idea that Murray felt he had to go "see" Michael, has me perplexed. Was he there to ask Michael for forgiveness? To ask God for direction? To seek some sense of comfort?
It's impossible to know what goes through someone's head, but it strikes me as very odd, that, just as Murray is about to fight a criminal charge for Michael's death, he would make a "private pilgrimage" to the cemetery. Why in the world would Murray let everyone speculate on what must be his own sense of guilt? I suppose he wants people not to hate him. I have to believe that part of his trip to the cemetery was self-serving. Murray wants people to believe that he cared about Michael and, moreover, that he considered Michael his friend. It's weird to realize that Conrad Murray must have felt that he was helping Michael... Where is this doctor's professional sensibility? What about the oath he took? This man is the ULTIMATE hypocrite. I MEAN, Is he for real??? His pilgrimage to Forrest Lawn was irrational, insane, and unforgivable. Not God, not Michael, not a sense of guilt.... will help Murray get through a grueling criminal trial and the media deluge that will soon be upon him.... Make no mistake: Conrad Murray should have stayed as far away from Michael's resting place as humanly possible. The notion that he feels guilty or sorry or wanted to pay his respects to Michael.... is just not acceptable.
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Completely agree with you. I wouldn't describe it as a "private pilgrimage" since TV cameras apparently followed him. Granted, it may have just been that they're always following him for now, but if that footage ends up in the so-called "documentary" he's being filmed for, it was no doubt planned that way. And it could have been anyway, maybe his lawyer put him up to it trying to gain some sympathy. For this MJ fan, it ain't working. Quite the opposite in fact. I hope the judge and jury see it that way too. Disgusting.
I was hoping, when I heard about this, that Conrad Murray (I will not give him the honor of calling him "Doctor") went there to apologize profusely and beg for forgiveness.
I guess I was wrong. :(
the man is no better than the dirt caught in the treads of my shoes.
For me it was all about media manipulation on Murray's part. He knew that his visit would be spread across the tabloid shows and it was his way of saying. "Look at me, if I felt I did anything wrong or had anything to hide, would I be here?" He wants sympathy, maybe absolution for his role in Michael's death but he will get NONE from me.
It is shameless!
I agree Ms Jones. Its horrifing & I find it creepy & disrespectful. He NOW wants to visit MJ & show his love for him? NO - MJs family & friends loved him. His kids loved him. We as his fans love him, not Murry. I was glad when I heard he was denided access, he should have been. It is his actions that led to MJs death. I cant even bring myself to call him a "DR."
OMG! yes, i feel the same...
My son is crying day by day, he want to visit Michael's rest place.
But we can't be there, we are so far of USA (we need 2500$ just for tickets plane!).
And this Dr.Murder dares to go there?!
Ohhh...i never hate someone like this!I am not proud,but this is the truth...
A.J did you thought to be there on the court? as a journalist? to be our ,,eyes&ears " from inside ?
And after to write a book?
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Thank you, Aphrodite. Your words are a constant source of honesty and comfort in a sea of confusing and frustrating mouth-pieces surrounding Michael.
As for Conrad Murray, without meeting the man in person, I'm nearly convinced he is a sociopath. Taking into account all that we know about him - not only his actions with Michael - he certainly fits the profile. And if that is indeed the case, he is incapable of possessing conscience nor accepting responsibility for his actions. It also means he is incapable of change - he may not see much jail time, but his medical license MUST be revoked.
I would like to visit MJs resting place too. More over, I just wish I can tell him how much he means to so many ppl & to me. I have liked MJ since I was abt 9 yrs old, I'm 33 now. He truly had a kind heart & I feel he is happy where he is now. However, I cannot help myself - I am SO ANGRY w/ DR. Murry. I dont think he grasps the full magnitude of what he has done. I dont think he realizes or even seems to care that he has taken something truly special away from us.
Horrifing and Creepy...yup! Michaels fans do NOT want Murray around him, not now not ever - Michaels family must be devistated. WHY is he not in Jail??
Thank you Aphrodite, for being on MJ's side XX
I agree. I see what Murray did going to see Michael's grave as strictly a publicity stunt to help himself.
And wow does this man have some NERVE to state that he will plead "not guilty" to what he has done - and to go to Michael's resting place like that.
He and his attorneys (who is paying them, AEG? I ask because Murray is broke) have been manipulating the media and playing the public for months. This stunt is the absolute culmination of a deluded, arrogant person. I don't know Conrad Murray - but I know his actions. They speak for themselves.
I join you in being utterly disgusted by this man.
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I 100% Agree with you Aphrodite. The thought of Dr. Murray visiting Michael just turns my stomach.. I think he is really doing this so the media and the general public will think that he really cared for Michael.. He just went for his own benefit. So people can feel sorry for him. WHATEVER!! He is the reason why Michael is not here no more.. Dr. Murray had no right to go and see Michael.. He needs to be put away in Jail
I agree. Murry is not there out of remorse or love. Its ridiculous to think so. He just wants to look "good" & appear "remorseful." I dont think he needs to be anyway where near MJs resting place or his family. Its just creepy that he would even go there. He needs to in jail. If it were not for him MJ would still be here.
You said it Aphrodite, creepy!:(! Once again you are on target; it seems Dr. Murray would have people believe that all he has to do is visit Michael's grave, and the obviously big role that he played in Michael's death with be forgotten and abolished, and that is simply not true.
If anyone else did to anybody else what Conrad Murray did to Michael Jackson, he or she would already be in jail. The whole process, frankly, the notion that Murray has been afforded the luxury to continue practicing and to attend to family business while "negotiating with prosecutors" is absurdly ridiculous; we would never be afforded such privileges. I think a second degree murder charge is in order here, and I read that Brian Oxman thinks this is most appropriate too, so I hope he has success in getting there; it would be great, if, by some miracle, Tom Mesereau could prosecute the case (wouldn't that be great Aphrodite?:)? Just neat!:)!
AJ, xoxoxoxoxoxo:)! I can't thank you enough-I mean...I just......I really can't thank you enough for all that you have done and are doing now for Michael!:)! I look up to you so much, with full arms of embrace for you (and Michael:) and a full heart. You are my hillary clinton (and way better too:) and my diva extraordinaire!
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Well, I for one thinks Dr. Conrad Murray was used as a scapgoat..the powers to be knew this doc was in the red and needed money that is why they choose him (easy to manipulate)to give MJ those meds without questioning it. I believe Mj was dead before the ambulance came to the house, so who was it in that SUV that drove off before the ambulance arrive and what did they take with them? How is it that all his employers AEG/Sony/Managers got calls and even a fan (How does a fan have a powerful persons cell number?) called one of the managers prior to his family being notified, dosen't make any sense. I think the attorney advised Dr. Murray to visit Forrest Lawn to gain sympathy from the fans...actually I feel a little for the guy...MJ has been getting that med for some time now and the DOC starts working there within 1 month giving MJ those meds and he is DEAD? No CPR equipment or mointoring available if things when wrong? Dosen't add up..I saw on the internet that MJ had an anesthesiologist adminstering the meds while he was on a tour so why is it they have a cardiologist intead of an anesthesiologist this time? HMMMMM...follow the money train...This is Big instead of This is it..no pun intended RIP MJ no matter what I still love yea!
I'm not even going to say what I think about Murray trying to visit MJ grave. Especially that everyone on the globe knows there is no access unless you are family.
What annoys me more is the way the DA & LAPD has been handling this case. Shameful!!!
I am afraid this murderer won't do much time behind bars!the whole visiting the grave is to taint any potential jury pool making him look like a remorceful,afflicted man who made a mistake.His lawyer are going to paint MJ as an addicted painkiller man who urged his doctor to give him propofol.I just don't trust the lapd and the DA otherwise this criminal would have been arrested soon after the coroner concluded MJ's death as an homicide and after he admitted he gave him the lethal coktail!!!
Totally agree with you!!If he cared for MJ, he wouldnt have done that to him!! Yes, where is his professional skepticism?? He should be responsible for MJ's death.
Obviously killing Michael was not enough for Murray and the gang of gangsters that support him. Because now what they are seeking is killing Michael's family and Michael's fans by causing us emotional breakdowns. For Murray's trying to visit Michael's grave had the same effect as a knife being thrust and twisted into our stomachs. That is more than what a sensitive human soul can bear! It’s sickening! I agree with a previous comment on that this Murray is a sociopath! He seems to have no feelings, no sensitiveness, no brain, no emotions. He looks like an abnormal being who is or, perhaps, pretends to be, not conscious of the harm he inflicts on people. I think that the authorities that do not arrest him are as criminals as he himself!
Seven months have passed and still I could not get over Michael's death, and the news we hear every day do not help very much to heal the pain, on the contrary. Thank you AJ for letting us share this blog with you. And I beg God that Justice be done because, otherwise, I think we will die out of sadness and anguish.
Thanks AJ
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Aphrodite,
Let me start by saying that I read your book and appreciated it very much, mainly because of its objectivity in presenting the evidence of MJ's 2005 trial. Let me add that I have been a fan of MJ since the ealry 80s and that I have a tremendous respect for him as human being and as an artist. The man did influence me alot (and still do) in working very hard to achieve myself and to be a fair, compassionate, rational, balanced and honest person. I feel his spirit and get so much peace and relief out of it. MJ did say on many occasion to never judge someone without knowing him/her and without knowing all the facts and circumstances. That is why I feel an obligation to comment on your post. From my point of view, it is totally unfair, at this point, to judge and/or speculate on Murray's intention and decision to visit MJ's grave. We have no idea of the specific relation he had with MJ nor do we have the specifc details of what really happened. Lets avoid the media trap and give justice a chance. No matter what, the truth always prevails. Lets be fans, not fanatics.
It seems like the Doctor's trying to gain some sympathy...
Is it true, the doctor will get immediate $25,000 bail once he's put behind bars? I hope it's not true.
Oh, my god. I'm from sweden and I'm reading the book now. I'm so angry. Me and my family have never belived the rumour's about MJ.
I'm so glad I've found this blog, and I will spread the word about MJ,s innocent.I will link to this blog, as well.
We love you MJ and RIP.
Thank you Aphrodite, for this book.
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Thank you very much Ms. Jones. I admire your strngth, righteousness, intelligence, and beauty inside and outside. Yes, the doctor's gesture is so disgusting. I totally agree with you from the first to the last. I hope this guy go into jail in the sigle basement room, no person with him to communicate and no light in it. I am so mad at him.
I pray everyday JUSTICE and VINDICATION of INNOCENCE for MICHAEL. I think you are one of the leaders for the that. I am looking forward to your appearance on Discovery and afterwards more on the media.
Sorry for my English, I am a Korean.
THANK YOU Aprhodite for writing this book of MJ innocense and to tell everyone of the witch-hunt that the media and their followers had on him.
He was a hunted man, despite his belief in love and mankind. Never will there be another spirit like the man MJ. Never will there be another generous man like MJ.
We - who can see the truth - will always spread the word of his innocense, just like my sister Karin said in the posting above!
R.I.P Michael Jackson
We will always love you!
I can not even believe he would think of doing this. I think it is very disrespectful towards Michael and his family. Sometimes i wonder if he has any conscience, any shame, any bad feeling for what he has done. I try hard to believe that he does but i really dont see it. His actions make me sick.
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This was simply a well timed PR move related to his arraignment. His narcissism prohibits the ability to recognize that others can easily read through his obvious behaviors. Appropriately timed public condolences to MJ's family was replaced with prior claims of innocence & an inability to respond to supposed, existing patients, due to "fear for his life." Authentic grief would have been private v.s. under the watchful eye of well timed photographers. A cardiologist whose only patient dies of a heart attack is a bad enough statement about his treatment. The fact that it was the famous Michael Jackson, hired at an outrageous monthly salary, is just plain deplorable, as is the court's decision to allow him to continue to practice medicine, with the exception of prescribing the propofol which he wasn't qualified to prescribe in the first place. And, if he chose to go against those qualifications, he should have, at the very least, utilized the necessary monitoring equipment to prevent his only patient's death. Hopefully, others will make wiser treatment choices, in the wake of this horror story.
When I first heard about this...I was horrified! The mere fact that he would try to taint the grounds there with his footprints pains me. This man went against the oath that he took when he became a Dr.
What he did was nothing short of MURDER...he had a conscious disregard for MJ's life before that morning...during that morning...and after at the hospital. That conscious disregard equals MURDER. I know on FB they are organizing to have requests...signatures etc. to submit to have the charges changed to AT LEAST 2nd degree murder. Michael KNEW someone would kill him...we all know that...
Michael did not deserve this...we must do everything we can to provide JUSTICE to Michael...his Children...his Mother and Family.
It's inconceivable that anyone would think Michael looked upon this man as a friend. I certainly don't pay my friends $150,000 per month to give me drugs that kill me. He's going to have to try harder than that!
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Aphrodite, I just looked at the new "We are the World" video and read an article about how the public and the music industry are beginning to emphasize and appreciate Michael's musical legacy instead of all the "unproven allegations" that followed him. I have also noted that Border's, and perhaps Barnes and Noble too, have all kinds of magazine and soft-cover tributes to him. Seems to me with all this interest, and some evidence that people are beginning to open their hearts and minds to another view of Michael, that a placement of your excellent book in these major outlets might have some positive results and get the word out about how poorly he was treated and how he was proven not guilty. Any chance of that?
THIS HAS BECOME A CIRCUS ! WERE TALK'N ABOUT AN HUMAN BE'N WHO WAS MURDER'D. WHO'S FAMILY IS OUTRAGED,HURT&CONFUSE'D NEED'N ANSWERS , THIS SHOULD'N HAVE HAPPEN'D ! HIS GREED WAS AND IS DEADLY, HOW CAN HE SLEEP OR FUNCTION AS A HUMAN BEING, THIS SO CALL'D MAN WOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN HIS KIDS OR FAMILY & FRIENDS THOSE LETHAL DOSAGES OF THOSE POWERFUL MEDICATIONS, HE WAS SUPPOSED 2 KNW BETTA VISIT'N MICHEAL'S REST'N PL. WAS A PLOY AND AN INSULT 2 MICHEAL AND THA JACKSON FAMILY! MANSLAUGHTER CUM ON THIS IS CLEARLY MURDER, NO 2 WAYS ABOUT IT ! HE SHOULDN'T HAVE ALLOW'D 2 VISIT MICHEALS REST'N PL. HOW DARE HE ! HE'S BEEN ALLOW'D 2 MUCH FREEDOM AFTER COMMIT'N A CRIME . JUSTICE IS WHAT MICHEAL SHOULD GET, NOTHIN HAS BEEN FAIR IN THIS 2 MICHEAL AND HIS FAMILY, IT WON'T BRING MICHEAL BACK NOR WILL THE PAIN EVER COMPLETELY HEAL FOR THE JACKSONS , BUT SUM CLOSURE WOULD EASE THE HURT ! WHEN I LOOK @ I DNT SEE A PERSON , I SEE A GREEDY UNCARING NONHUMAN CREATURE. HE WILL ALWAYS BE KN AS THE CREATURE THAT KILL'D AN AMAZIN,LUV'N,KIND, WARM HEART'D PERSON, WHO GAVE HIS ALL FROM THA DEPTH OF HIS SOUL, MICHEAL GAVE US HIS ALL ! I JST FEEL WE SHOULD'VE LET HIM KN THAT HE WAS'NT EVER ALONE . MICHEAL UR 1 OF THA GREATIEST , NO ONE CAN NOR WILL REPLACE U .
THIS HAS BECOME A CIRCUS ! WERE TALK'N ABOUT AN HUMAN BE'N WHO WAS MURDER'D. WHO'S FAMILY IS OUTRAGED,HURT&CONFUSE'D NEED'N ANSWERS , THIS SHOULD'N HAVE HAPPEN'D ! HIS GREED WAS AND IS DEADLY, HOW CAN HE SLEEP OR FUNCTION AS A HUMAN BEING, THIS SO CALL'D MAN WOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN HIS KIDS OR FAMILY & FRIENDS THOSE LETHAL DOSAGES OF THOSE POWERFUL MEDICATIONS, HE WAS SUPPOSED 2 KNW BETTA VISIT'N MICHEAL'S REST'N PL. WAS A PLOY AND AN INSULT 2 MICHEAL AND THA JACKSON FAMILY! MANSLAUGHTER CUM ON THIS IS CLEARLY MURDER, NO 2 WAYS ABOUT IT ! HE SHOULDN'T HAVE ALLOW'D 2 VISIT MICHEALS REST'N PL. HOW DARE HE ! HE'S BEEN ALLOW'D 2 MUCH FREEDOM AFTER COMMIT'N A CRIME . JUSTICE IS WHAT MICHEAL SHOULD GET, NOTHIN HAS BEEN FAIR IN THIS 2 MICHEAL AND HIS FAMILY, IT WON'T BRING MICHEAL BACK NOR WILL THE PAIN EVER COMPLETELY HEAL FOR THE JACKSONS , BUT SUM CLOSURE WOULD EASE THE HURT ! WHEN I LOOK @ I DNT SEE A PERSON , I SEE A GREEDY UNCARING NONHUMAN CREATURE. HE WILL ALWAYS BE KN AS THE CREATURE THAT KILL'D AN AMAZIN,LUV'N,KIND, WARM HEART'D PERSON, WHO GAVE HIS ALL FROM THA DEPTH OF HIS SOUL, MICHEAL GAVE US HIS ALL ! I JST FEEL WE SHOULD'VE LET HIM KN THAT HE WAS'NT EVER ALONE . MICHEAL UR 1 OF THA GREATIEST , NO ONE CAN NOR WILL REPLACE U .
THIS HAS BECOME A CIRCUS ! WERE TALK'N ABOUT AN HUMAN BE'N WHO WAS MURDER'D. WHO'S FAMILY IS OUTRAGED,HURT&CONFUSE'D NEED'N ANSWERS , THIS SHOULD'N HAVE HAPPEN'D ! HIS GREED WAS AND IS DEADLY, HOW CAN HE SLEEP OR FUNCTION AS A HUMAN BEING, THIS SO CALL'D MAN WOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN HIS KIDS OR FAMILY & FRIENDS THOSE LETHAL DOSAGES OF THOSE POWERFUL MEDICATIONS, HE WAS SUPPOSED 2 KNW BETTA VISIT'N MICHEAL'S REST'N PL. WAS A PLOY AND AN INSULT 2 MICHEAL AND THA JACKSON FAMILY! MANSLAUGHTER CUM ON THIS IS CLEARLY MURDER, NO 2 WAYS ABOUT IT ! HE SHOULDN'T HAVE ALLOW'D 2 VISIT MICHEALS REST'N PL. HOW DARE HE ! HE'S BEEN ALLOW'D 2 MUCH FREEDOM AFTER COMMIT'N A CRIME . JUSTICE IS WHAT MICHEAL SHOULD GET, NOTHIN HAS BEEN FAIR IN THIS 2 MICHEAL AND HIS FAMILY, IT WON'T BRING MICHEAL BACK NOR WILL THE PAIN EVER COMPLETELY HEAL FOR THE JACKSONS , BUT SUM CLOSURE WOULD EASE THE HURT ! WHEN I LOOK @ I DNT SEE A PERSON , I SEE A GREEDY UNCARING NONHUMAN CREATURE. HE WILL ALWAYS BE KN AS THE CREATURE THAT KILL'D AN AMAZIN,LUV'N,KIND, WARM HEART'D PERSON, WHO GAVE HIS ALL FROM THA DEPTH OF HIS SOUL, MICHEAL GAVE US HIS ALL ! I JST FEEL WE SHOULD'VE LET HIM KN THAT HE WAS'NT EVER ALONE . MICHEAL UR 1 OF THA GREATIEST , NO ONE CAN NOR WILL REPLACE U .
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In My opine, i'm not God to give apologize for this man, but i gess this man make a mistake horriveble, why somebody like him, make this with a one man, i gess this is for a money just money, and four years in a jail not is enough. Him is a Killer... Just Killer. 20th Years in a Jaill is realy enough!!!
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I also was wondering why he apparently had a photographer with him. This really seemed to be for PR reasons. If he had been serious about it, he would have done it secretly. Of course he should have stayed away from the cemetary, and he should really receive appropriate penalty, but please let's not hate him. Hate was foreign to Michael's nature. We cannot look into Murray's heart to see how much he perhaps regrets the things that happened.
Let's leave it up with the court, and - as Aphrodite wrote - it doesn't bring Michael back anyway.
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I linked this post and wrote a little something about myself, not just the visit, but Murray in general. That whole setup didn't seem right to me.
http://theovernightblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/mj-conspiracy.html
I also wanted to add, I think ID Discovery should do a show where you debate Diane Dimond on the case. Although I don't think she'd have the courage to debate you. :-)
I totally agree with all you said about Dr.Murray. To visit Michael's resting place was a slap in the face to his family and the fans who love him. It was insensitive, hippocritical and a gross insult - I think in his twisted mind he thought he would gain some 'sympathy points' or something!! It's a bit late for him to have a conscience about what he did now. If he had any conscience or sense of professionalism in his work he woudl never have left Michael alone whilst unconscious on Propofol! He's supposed to be a doctor, he knew the risks and yet he blatanty took them with another man's life. How he got off so lightly is beyond me and makes me wonder about the integrity of the justice system and those employed to administer it. I'm a lifelong fan of MJ and I was horrified at doc Murray showing up at Forrest Lawn - only God knows how hurtful it was for Michael's family and close friends.
Thank you for fighting for Michael's good name, you have many many grateful fans behind you.
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